Is It Fall Yet?

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Is It Fall Yet?
Production Number N/A
Original Airdate August 27th, 2000
Special Guest Voices Carson Daly
Dave Grohl
Bif Naked
Written By Glenn Eichler
Peggy Nicoll
Directed By Karen Disher
Guy Moore

"Is It Fall Yet?" is the first Daria TV movie. It first aired on MTV on August 27, 2000. The movie was written by Glenn Eichler and Peggy Nicoll. It documents the summer between Daria Morgendorffer's junior and senior years of high school, after the turbulent events of "Dye! Dye! My Darling" and before "Fizz Ed". At 59 minutes duration, the movie is roughly equivalent to 3 'normal' episodes. It is often abbreviated on message boards as IIFY?


In Lawndale High, students wrap up the finishing school year and prepare for the summer vacation: Brittany and Kevin will work as lifeguards in the local pool; Mack has a job driving an ice cream truck; Jodie, to her annoyance, has a full set of activities prepared, including golf lessons, an internship in a senator’s office, fund raising, working in a crises center and volunteering at a soup kitchen.

Jane, in these final school days, after her breakup with Tom Sloane and related events, is giving Daria the cold shoulder. After much insistence from the latter, Jane eventually reveals she will spend the summer in Ashfield, an art colony outside Lawndale, though she refuses to talk about Tom, showing to still be hurt by their betrayal.

In the sophomore class, when the PSAT results arrive and Quinn’s score is lower than she had expected, she decides to hire a tutor for the summer. Quinn tries to keep this a secret, but Sandi is only too happy to spill the beans to the other students. However, the enthusiastic reaction from the The Three Js prompts the rest of the Fashion Club (who had had even lower PSAT results than Quinn) to hire a tutor too.

Daria begins tentatively to date Tom, but things start badly due to Daria’s inexperience and feelings of guilt on the way Tom and Jane had broken up. She has trouble admitting in public they are dating and that Jane and Tom are no longer a couple. Things are not helped by the Sloane’s fortune and higher social standing, which drives an edge on both their and their families’ relations. An incidental meeting with Kay, Angier and Elsie in their club goes awkwardly, as also goes the polite refusal of the Morgendorffers to attend a very expensive charity event.

Too add to this situation, Helen forces Daria to volunteer as a counselor in Timothy O’Neill’s Okay To Cry Corral summer camp. Along with O’Neill and Daria is Anthony DeMartino, who has joined the camp in the hope of rediscovering his joys of teaching. Daria is assigned several children, including a depressed and angry boy named Link. Due to O’Neill’s over-protective nature, the camp is everything but fun, with teachers and counselors alike spending all day indoors indulging in boring tasks, despite the kids repeated pleas to play outside.

Summer also goes on for the other Lawndale High students: Kevin and Brittany, as lifeguards in the pool, spend more time enjoying each others' company than watching kids. Mack has a bad time having to put up with bratty children as an ice cream truck driver. Plus he doesn’t even see Jodie, who can’t make time to be with him due to her many summer activities.

Alison propositions Jane

Arriving at the art camp, Jane is very turned-off by Daniel Dotson, the self-aggrandizing main teacher. She befriends Alison, an older female artist who is nice and shares Jane’s low opinion of Dotson. The two start to bond, especially when the other students dismiss Jane for her youth and strong opinions. However, it turns out this good relation was just a plot for Allison to try and sleep with her, leaving Jane hurt and confused.

Meanwhile, at Lawndale, Quinn’s attempts to study with her tutor, David Sorenson, have a bad start. During their initial study session, as Quinn pays more attention to trivial interruptions than to the teacher, David is ready to quit, berating Quinn for lack of trying, lack of knowledge and superficial interests and concluding she does not belong in college. This shocks Quinn into explaining her desire to improve her PSTAT scores and begging David to stay, promising to do better. David’s interactions with the rest of the Fashion club are not as good: he tries to tutor Sandi, only to walk out when she dismisses his teachings and serious attitude; Tiffany prefers to spend tutoring time applying make-up, barely paying attention when he leaves; and Stacy is the only to make an effort, but her lack of self-confidence combined with feeling left out when Sandi and Tiffany don’t told her they had quit eventually make her quit tutoring too.

Summer goes on and OK to Cry Corral initially keeps on with the same boring and ineffectual activities. O’Neill attempts to bound and counsel Link, only for the youngster to call O’Neill on his inability to help and put in evidence what is wrong with the camp. Later, however, as all councelors and children are doing another pointless indoor bounding activity, DeMartino has a psychotic break, tears down the window and leads the children on an outdoor hike. Daria takes the opportunity, plus the fact they had gone in a secret walk before, to try to approach Link, who starts to open up. However, the moment is ruined by O’Neill.

Uncle Anthony goes on a hike (whenever he feels like it)

The camp ends a few days later, with the children ignoring O’Neill and widely acclaiming DeMartino, for his part in the hike and having earlier shouted at the camp bully. The history teacher parts giving practical and sound advice to the youngsters, his faith in teaching restored. Daria tries still to connect with a cold and dismissive Link, offering her contact and a friendly ear.

At Ashfield, Jane keeps herself busy working on her art as an escape valve for her frustrations. She and Allison eventually meet and talk. After an initial awkwardness, as they tentatively try to remain friends, Jane is disgusted when she notes Allison’s involved with Dotson. The older girl makes light of it, noting that Jane takes everything too seriously, an argument that angers the younger woman.

In Lawndale, after several blunders at the pool, Kevin and Brittany end up fired. Mack, who by that time has made enough money to settle his debts and even take Jodie out, convinces them to take over his job. This works out well from the children, who take advantage of the duo’s lack of simple arithmetic skills to eat all the ice cream they want without paying a cent.

On the other hand, Daria’s summer hits rock bottom when, after trying to avoid Tom, she provokes a fight with him. Daria starts by justifying her dating uneasiness on their different social levels and defending Jane when Tom unintentionally makes a disparaging comment about her, but he is able to put her on the spot by pointedly stating she’s the one afraid to get hurt by the relationship. When Daria doesn’t reply, he dumps her and drives off. Between this event, Link’s rejection and her sister’s request for advice about David, for whom she is starting to fall for, Daria desperately phones Jane and begs to go visit her. Jane first refuses, but then relents and indicates Trent’s upcoming gig at bar nearby.

Daria takes a ride to the art camp in the Mystik Spiral van, with Trent driving and trying to console her. However, his efforts contrast with him chanting aloud a song about betrayal. Arriving at Ashfield, they are received by Jane, who first shows Daria her works and listens of Daria’s take about Link before the two of them go out to talk about their situation. They first get into a heated argument about who blew the other off for Tom (referring to when Jane was spending time with Tom and, later, when Daria started dating him) before Jane emotionally reveals her pain at the fact Daria had almost destroyed their friendship just to have a boyfriend. Seeing Jane hurt, Daria remorsefully apologizes. Jane forgives her and the two young women resume their friendship as Mystik Spiral plays a song dedicated to friendship.

The next day, Daria explains the reasons for her breakup as she prepares to leave with Trent. Jane listens and then advises her friend to give Tom another chance, stating that, this time, she is really over Daria and Tom’s betrayal and that they could make a good couple.

At Lawndale, Quinn’s tutoring has paid off as she has worked hard and much improved her academic knowledge throughout the summer. In the last session, Quinn boldly asks David out, but is heartbroken when he politely turns her down, still due to her superficiality. She goes pour her heart out to her sister, who consoles her by pointing out she has learned a lot and is not stupid, and that people have to give each other chances, even if sometimes the others are not receptive. Helen, who had overheard the conversation, tries to play Daria’s advice on her, to no effect. However, Daria’s argument is proven correct when she receives a short letter from Link, inviting her to write back.

And so, summer vacation ends and school resumes. On the first day, Quinn surprises the new junior class by correctly answering DeMartino’s question about Manifest Destiny and then calmly deflecting Sandi’s attacks on her new found ‘nerdiness’.

Returning from school, Daria and Jane talk about their summers when they are met by Tom in his new car. Jane pleasantly greets him and then leaves for him and Daria to talk. Tom offers Daria a ride home and, arriving there, he pleads her for a second opportunity for their relation, conceding about their differences and noting her difficulties in dating. After some hesitation, Daria shyly indicates she also is willing to try again and the two indulge in some smooching.

This scene is watched by Helen from the living room window, who happily reminisces about the changes undergone by both her daughters during the summer. Jake’s answer is first apparently clueless... before he smiles, indicating he’s making a joke (something he had not been capable off during the whole summer). He then proceeds to (off-camera) chase his wife around the house for some old couple’s fun.

Character development[edit]

"Is It Fall Yet?" was extremely important for the development of many of the Daria characters.


"Give people a chance." Sounds like good advice.

—Helen, Is It Fall Yet?,

Firstly, Daria begins to "come out of her shell" in the sense that she opens herself up to Tom more by the end, after Tom noted earlier in the film that Daria was reluctant to do so out of fear of being vulnerable. Towards the end of the film, Daria quietly admits under the mumbling of her own breath that Tom was right and agrees to give him a chance in spite of her own feelings about Tom's family and social rank. Jane's further encouragement about giving Tom another chance allowed Daria to reach a point where she could step out of her comfort zone and give Tom a real chance at a meaningful relationship. This concept is built upon as Daria and Tom date throughout the fifth season, in episodes such as "Sappy Anniversary", "The Story of D", "One J at a Time", and "My Night at Daria's".


...if you saw past his looks, you can't be completely shallow.

—Daria, Is It Fall Yet?,

When Quinn began to feel genuinely attracted to David, it proved that there is more depth to Quinn than just the "superficial popular girl" gag that had carried on throughout much of the series. Her newfound intellect as a result of David's tutoring also separates Quinn from the rest of the Fashion Club. This concept is built upon in the fifth season, in the episode "Lucky Strike", when Quinn has to answer a short essay question on Romeo and Juliet and surprises herself when she already knows the play by memory. The film also sees the first time ever in which Quinn stands up for herself against Sandi. During Mr. DeMartino's history class, Sandi insults Quinn after she gave a detailed answer on Manifest Destiny (an answer Quinn learned from David's tutoring). Normally, Quinn would cave to Sandi and try to get on her good side. However when Quinn fires back, Sandi is taken off-guard, as this is the first time Quinn has ever stood up to Sandi directly. This trend continues in the fifth season, in the episode "Fat Like Me", when Quinn and the other Fashion Club members challenge Sandi on her Fashion Club guidelines. In "Lucky Strike", when Sandi insults Quinn for getting a B+ on her essay, Quinn fires back by telling Sandi she would have gotten a good grade if she actually tried (ouch!).

Sandi, just because someone can answer a simple question doesn't mean they're a pedagogue.

—Quinn, Is It Fall Yet?,

Off-Canon Canon[edit]

Daria on IIFY?[edit]

Daria gave a report from the set, originally run in YM magazine:

"I'm writing from the set of my made-for-TV movie, Daria's Bikini Smackdown (working title only, you understand), currently in production and set to air on MTV next fall. It's ever so glamorous here. I just got off the phone with the producers, and they assured me the toilet in my trailer will be fixed by the end of the week.

Life as a soon-to-be movie star is frantic and action packed, and it starts before breakfast. First, my personal trainer wakes me at 7 a.m. and then watches as I yawn, roll over, and go back to sleep. He leaves his bill pinned to my pillow.

A few hours later, I arrive on the set. The limo driver rouses me from my catnap, and as I exit the sleek black vehicle, hordes of fans press forward, hoping for a glimpse of me. My fans mean everything to me, so I try to be as gentle with the pepper spray as I can.

Between takes I play Risk with my body double. (My contract states: "No nude scenes. No scenes requiring removal of any item of clothing, especially socks.") If I win, I treat her to a facial and a massage, 'cause she's my best bud, of course. If she wins, I throw a huge hissy fit and throw her off the set.

My nights are spent attending an endless string of flashy, expensive cocktail parties thrown to raise money for people who would never be invited to them. I'd feel less self-conscious at these things if people didn't keep mistaking me for the coat check girl.

Yes, it's a hectic life. But despite the never-ending torrent of insincere flattery and laughably transparent kissing up, I remain the simple, wide-eyed girl from small-town Lawndale who arrived on Sunset Boulevard with a beat-up suitcase and a heart full of hope (at least that's what my official bio maintains, though it also mentions being birthed in a log cabin). But don't worry about me going Hollywood"-I've solemnly sworn never to indulge in liposuction or any other form of artificial enhancement. Unless, of course, I get to be the one who performs the surgery. Scalpel!

So as production grinds along here on Touched by Daria Morgendorffer, Medicine Woman (new working title suggested by the head of development, who had a brainstorm in the shower this morning), I can't help ponder how much my life will change once this film premieres. As a result, I've been inspired to pen the following list:

Advantages of Being a Movie Star

1. You can stop avoiding people-your bodyguards just body block anyone who gets in your way.

2. Complimentary designer sunglasses.

3. Fans pay good money for your used boots on eBay.

4. President of MTV writes notes to excuse you from gym classes.

5. Your sister no longer refers to you as her "cousin-or-something"; you are now upgraded to her "famous cousin-or-something."

Disadvantages of Being a Movie Star

1. Being grounded by furious parents after your bodyguards fend them off.

2. Annoying flashing lights at star studded openings. (Where did I put those complimentary sunglasses?)

3. Paparazzi constantly hanging from your bedroom window ledge (usually turns out to be Jane Lane)

4. Having to sing "Happy Birthday" to president of MTV at annual stockholders' meetings

5. Everyone wants a piece of you. Eventually you run out of body parts.

Well, I've got a meeting with the producer to discuss firing the director, so I've got to run! Some of the above information may be a teensy bit exaggerated, but at least this much is true: There really will be a Daria movie on MTV on August 27th, so watch for The Bloody Severed Head of Daria, Who Got Lost in the Woods Project (brand-new working title).

See ya at the made-for-TV movies!

Delilah (formerly known as Daria Morgendorffer)"

Chat room[edit]

Why cant Jane do something weird, like turn everything around and be gay or something

— ,

I don't think I can do something weirder than the question you just asked.


After the premiere, "Daria", "Jane", "Quinn", "Tom" and "Trent" answered fans' questions in an MTV online chat and trashtalked some ("You obviously wear clogs with socks!"). Questions answered and statements made included:

  • Daria and Jane weren't invited to the film's premiere party.
  • If a man asks Daria if she's a lesbian, she replies "I don't know. Give me a big kiss, and we'll find out."
  • In Mystik Spiral plans, Trent intends to direct the next music video himself and a CD is in the works: "it is a 15 track cd and we only have 14 left to go"
  • Trent's ideal girl: "Um, she's got a job"
  • In a reference to Lane Miserables, he says living in the tent "wasn't bad once I learned to open the flap for air"
  • Daria admits to finding Tom sexy "in a "don't come near me, I'm not ready yet" sort of way" and admits she's trying to get him to stop wearing cargo pants. ("Hey, you said you liked those!!") When asked if she will ever have sex, Daria responds: "I'm planning to live into my 80's so, god, I hope so."
  • Tom gets his clothes from a thrift store.
  • Daria knows about comedian Janeane Garofalo ("the woman who's been stealing my act")
  • Quinn watches Sailor Moon and Powerpuff Girls, preferring the look of the latter
  • Upchuck wasn't in the film as he'd gone to "a camp for the Gifted and Obnoxious" ("mtvjane:Well, they got it half right")
  • Jane prefers Van Gogh to Renoir, and uses "oil for passion, acrylic for intellect"
  • In meta statements, Daria says they wear the same clothes as it's "Easier on the artists", Quinn states Sandi is a bitch "to make me look nice", and there's a jab at the budget ("what do you mean, animated?")
  • Whoever was doing the chat knew who Andrea was
  • Trent says he's not crushing on Daria and is stunned to learn fans want to pair them up ("whoa!").
  • And:

05:49:49 PM> MODMSG emn0707:tom- who is a better kisser, jane or daria?
05:49:58 PM> mtvtom:I have no memory of ever kissing Jane.
05:50:01 PM> mtvdaria:That's right, you don't.
05:50:08 PM> mtvjane:Tom who?

wickedsigh:omg you guys.. can you atleast say hi to me ... so I can leave happy?

— ,





It was announced on the 2000 MTV website with: "Yes, the rumors are true. Is It Fall Yet?, Daria's first made-for-TV movie, will premiere this fall (how appropriate!) on MTV. We can't give away too much about the story at this point except to say that it involves a hijacking of the Space Shuttle, mysterious bacteria from under the sea, the illegitimate twin daughters of a ninja warrior and a Jedi knight, a dozen talking eggs, the deaths of six main characters and a really heartwarming rendition of "What I Did For Love." But that's all we're saying."

The cast uses three celebrities: Carson Daly (David), Bif Naked (Alison) and Dave Grohl (Daniel Dotson).

DeMartino chucking the sink through the camp's window so he can escape is a tip of the hat to One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, where Chief Bromden does the same thing with a water fountain.

Daria and Quinn are both stated (by Helen and Daria respectively) to hide their real selves behind masks for fear of what would happen if their real selves were shown. While this concept had been raised in both "Quinn the Brain" (Quinn) and "Psycho Therapy" (both, with Daria casually admitting to it), this is the first time it was made explicit that both of them are using the same tactic.

The question DeMartino poses to Quinn at the end of the episode "What is Manifest Destiny?" is the same question he asked of Daria on their first day at Lawndale in "Esteemsters".

Alison is the sole character to be confirmed as non-heterosexual in Daria's entire run, and unfortunately follows the "predatory lesbian/bisexual" stereotype. However, the "Future Egos" of "Is It College Yet?," while not strictly canon, seem to imply she eventually gets into a happy relationship with Lindy.

The original end credits song - "I May Hate You Sometimes" by The Posies - was not included on the videos or DVDs due to cost reasons. However, a different licensed song - "Sixteen and Confused" by Parade of Losers - was used, instead of a new generic track or the Daria theme.

Edited versions by Noggin[edit]

When the new tween-aimed network The N started its Daria reruns, it chose IIFY? as the attention-grabbing first story and ran a press release about the film's plot. However, it aired in an edited form. Much of the plot involving Jane and Alison was removed, including two full scenes and most of a third scene. (It's debatable whether this plot was removed due to its lesbian context. However, given the adult themes of those scenes, including underage drinking, it's likely that similar scenes with a male suitor would also have been excised).

Other edits include removing a number of potentially offensive words (including damn and suck) and lines (such as the announcement of voluntary urine testing).

Notably, that press release (see Links) doesn't refer to Bif Naked and Alison alongside the other celeb voices... and it doesn't refer to Jane either! If you went by the press release, you'd think this was a film primarily focused on Daria and Quinn, and you'd have no idea Daria was dating Tom.

Daria and Quinn's Reading Material[edit]

Daria jokes about being in the "Ninth Circle of Hell" when she first meets David, and is suspicious whe a man there to see Quinn recognises this is from Dante's Divine Comedy. The Ninth Circle was the worst part of the Hell and reserved for traitors, showing more of Daria's guilt.

During the lanyards session, Daria starts reading Fifth Business by Robertson Davies (misspelt "Roberson" in the animation).

Daria tells Link that as a child, she was a fan of George Orwell. (This turns up again in "Camp Fear")

David lends Quinn a copy of Ethan Frome.

Daria references Henry James novels when talking about how awkward she felt around the Sloane's.

To cover up being in Daria's room, Quinn pretends she's borrowing Daria's copy of A Journal of the Plague Year by Daniel Defoe.


Original DVD[edit]

Is It Fall Yet? was the first DVD release for Daria, coming out in 2001 with original cover art. As well as the movie, it contained the preceding two episodes of the Love Triangle arc and the music video for Freaking Friends. A VHS edition was also released.

On the boxset[edit]

On the Daria DVD set Daria: The Complete Animated Series, Is It Fall Yet? is not placed chronologically with the episodes. If you wish to watch everything in order, then after Dye! Dye! My Darling, go to the Final Disc in the set, "Extras", and you will find the movie there under "Extras", and then "Movies". After watching it, you can return to the disc you were on and watch Fizz Ed.

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