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* An explicit date is established: Helen and Jake were at Boulder in August 1969, where they spent a night in jail. Willow and Coyote knew them then, so they presumably went to [[Middleton College]] too, as the contemporary "[[The Daria Database]]" says Jake & Helen are part of the Class of '72. (See [[Datedness of Daria]])
* An explicit date is established: Helen and Jake were at Boulder in August 1969, where they spent a night in jail. Willow and Coyote knew them then, so they presumably went to [[Middleton College]] too, as the contemporary "[[The Daria Database]]" says Jake & Helen are part of the Class of '72. (See [[Datedness of Daria]])

* Jane, in trying to get Jesse's attention, states that on [[April 1, 2007]], the various objects people buy would take over civilization.


==“That Was Then, This is Dumb” and Fanfic==
==“That Was Then, This is Dumb” and Fanfic==

* [http://thepaperpusher.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=487807#p487807 Untitled fic] by Civicfan explaining how Jane knew about the 2007 apocalypse


==External Links==
==External Links==

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That Was Then, This Is Dumb
Production Number 205
Original Airdate March 16, 1998
Special Guest Voices
Written By Anne D. Bernstein
Directed By

“That Was Then, This is Dumb” was the fifth episode of the second season of Daria (episode number 205). It first aired on MTV on March 16, 1998.

"That Was Then, This is Dumb" was written by Anne D. Bernstein.

The episode's title is derived from the novel That Was Then, This Is Now by S.E. Hinton

Summary

This episode portrayed a visit to the Morgendorfer's residence by old friends of Jake and Helen from their counterculture days, Coyote and Willow Yeager. The Yeagers, and their disaffected, "slacker" son Ethan, have been attempting to keep the spirit of the 60s alive, driving around in an old Volkswagon van, replacing their dog (named for Timothy Leary) with identical dogs with the same name, refusing to allow their son to participate in athletics, earning a living by selling hemp products, and in general attempting to live in a manner that Daria characterizes as "voluntary simplicity"—which phrase Trent astutely says "sounds better than broke."

In the course of the episode, Quinn and Daria learn about their parents' stay in jail during the 60s, and the post-hippie family will learn that there is more to like than dislike in modern life (golf and frozen bagels, for example).

Trent/Daria shipping

Anne Bernstein has said that in this episode, "Trent did catch on that Daria had a thing for him (see the open eyes in "That Was Then")". [1]

Trivia

  • An explicit date is established: Helen and Jake were at Boulder in August 1969, where they spent a night in jail. Willow and Coyote knew them then, so they presumably went to Middleton College too, as the contemporary "The Daria Database" says Jake & Helen are part of the Class of '72. (See Datedness of Daria)
  • Jane, in trying to get Jesse's attention, states that on April 1, 2007, the various objects people buy would take over civilization.

“That Was Then, This is Dumb” and Fanfic

  • Untitled fic by Civicfan explaining how Jane knew about the 2007 apocalypse

External Links

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Alternate Universe Versions of “That Was Then, This is Dumb”

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I Don't (204)
Daria Episodes
"That Was Then, This Is Dumb," Season 2 Episode 5
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